转自天涯
http://www.tianya.cn/publicforum/content/funinfo/1/1386752.shtml
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在youtube上搜索了一下大闹天宫的英文名uproar in heaven，看到那些外国人在大闹天宫的视频下对这部动画片的评价，有些感慨
这些外国人对这部动画片评价之高，完全到出乎想象的地步，说成是推崇备至半点不过分，其实这部大闹天宫水准质量技术之高，确实是登峰造极，没有外国人评价，我也就是这么认为的。可见好的东西就是好的，民族就是世界的，真正能让自己国家人衷心喜爱的东西，也必定会让其他国家的人感到叹为观止。
现在那些一心想迎合外国人的所谓大导演吴宇森，张艺谋，和大闹天宫的导演比，真是如同癞蛤蟆和天鹅比
可惜，我们中国人不善于宣传自己国家真正出色的，经典的，优秀的文化
就象大闹天宫这个动画片来说吧，从看过它的这些外国人的评价来看，如果把它现在放到美国去做商业播映，就算原样不动，风头盖过好莱坞动画片也是不成问题的，在全球播映的话，赚个五六亿美元票房，是完全可能，因为它的质量水准，绚丽华彩程度，剧情精彩，扣人心弦程度确实远远超过了什么功夫熊猫之类，而且是完全的中国民族风格
凡是看过大闹天宫的外国人都是看呆了，看傻了，从有些外国人的评价来看，他们几乎都怀疑这是做梦，都不敢相信，在这个世界上，还有这么华丽的动画片。几乎每个画面截取下来都可以当艺术品来欣赏的
(可是遗憾的是我们有这么好的作品，就是不善于推广，似乎大闹天宫诞生以后，只是送到外国参加了几个冷僻的电影节评选，然后在一些英美的电视台播放过一两次
一些偶然童年时代在电视上看过大闹天宫动画的外国人都是被惊艳住了，可是他们现在想要找到一个有英文字幕的大闹天宫的DVD都很困难，有些外国人还是靠自己费劲千辛万苦，九牛二虎之力才总算弄出一个英文字幕来)
问题其实并不仅仅在外国人如何评价，问题是应该如何让我们中国的优秀文化在世界范围内有更大影响力
如果我们没有好作品也就算了，可是我们实际上曾经有过大闹天宫和哪吒闹海这样超一流的作品，可是也没有很好的在世界范围内推广宣传，这个太可惜。看看美国的迪斯尼，它的什么狮子王之类，出的年代比大闹天宫晚了几十年，质量水平还远远达不到大闹天宫的程度，可是影响力还很大，更不用说功夫熊猫之类了，这方面中国应该追一下。
当然现在关键还是动画风格要重现回到民族风格上来，如果靠抄袭模仿日本动漫，那就根本没有出路了。
大家可以到这个网址看看
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXUsvPvLUKw&feature=related
我选择一些评论翻译一下,
这里按评论时间先后排的
davevontexas (1 年前)
I can't believe what my eyes are seeing.
Un - **ing - believable. I cannot believe I am privleged to see this amazing cultural artifact.
Which studio? What year? Who was the director? Tell me or so help me, I'll drive up there and beat it out of you.
我不敢相信我的眼睛看到的东西
Un - **ing - believable 我不能相信我有幸看到这个令人惊叹的文化作品
哪一个工作室？哪一个年？谁是导演？告诉我或帮助我，我要赶到那里去，
并且beat it out of you.（不理解是什么意思）
Galaxo (1 年前)
Fantastic! There's also a Japanese version of the Monkey Legend fromthe 1960's. The one I saw was dubbed by Frankie Avalon & JonathanWinters. Not so authentic as this clip, but just as colorful and WEIRD!
华美奇异极了，还有一个1960年代的猴子神话的日本版本，我看到那个是Frankie Avalon & Jonathan Winters.配音的。不象这个这么地道纯粹，但一样颜色丰富和神秘
ouiseyn (1 年前)
I saw this when I was a little girl. When Channel 4 in the UK wenton the air, one of the first things it aired was this movie. I neversaw it again...I've wondered for a long time if it was somefantastically beautiful dream I had. Its just as wonderful as Iremember it! Thank you so much for uploading.
当我看这个电影的时候，还是个小女孩。那时候英国4频道开播，它开始播的那些节目中有一个就是这个电影。我后来再也没有看过它，我曾经怀疑了很长的时间，它是否只是我曾经做过的某个好到难以相信的奇异瑰丽的梦境。现在再看到它，它就象我曾经记忆的那样华丽壮观。太谢谢你上传了
hopz2 (1 年前)
God damn. This is from 1960s when animes weren't even that far ahead.
dangergErBi
uuuuhhh... its CHINA not JAPAN ^^
hopz2
上帝啊，这是1960年代制作的动画片，那时候动画甚至还没有那么发达
dangergErBi
嗯嗯嗯，而且它是中国制作的还不是日本
matsumullet (1 年前)
Oh man, I haven't seen this in over a decade! My parents had itrecorded on VHS tape, but it's forever lost. I recently got the name ofthis show from the library. Thank you so much for posting this up!
哦，伙计，我已经超过十年没有看到这个电影了，我的父母曾经把它录在带子上，但它永远丢失了，我最近在图书馆找到了这个片子的名称，太谢谢你把它贴出来了
bluegrace06 (1 年前)
Watched this as a kid. It's even better than I remembered. Oh, and for more info you can try wikipedia.
当初看这个电影的时候还是个孩子，它甚至比我记忆中的更好。哦，你可以在维基找到更多有关的信息
omnivorous (1 年前)
OMG OMG you just made my day! Thank you for this.
哦，我的上帝，我的上帝，你成全了我的日子，为这部电影谢谢你
dangergErBi (1 年前)
the dragon looked like goofy lol ^^
这个龙看上去象goofy
xMuStangex (1 年前)
I LOVE this movie, I remember watching it the first time on TV whenI was like 6-7 years old (I'm 23 now) and taped it, I still to this dayhave the tape.
我爱这个电影，我记得第一次在电视上看到它，我还只有个六七岁（现在23岁了）并且录下了它，我到今天还有这个带子
laitma (1 年前)
Hey man, thanks for uploading this movie~
Is there no way to get subtitles, though, for non-chinese speakers?It'd be awesome if americans could watch this too. I'm guessing you'rechinese and can speak/write it? Is it you don't want to do subs, ordon't know how to?
嗨，伙计，谢谢你上传这个电影，就没有办法为那些不讲中文的人弄到字幕么？它真的是太棒了，真希望美国人也能看看这个。我猜你是中国人吧，并且能讲能写中文？你不打算做个字幕吗？或者不知道怎么弄
deathcap666 (11个月之前)
**in A! !! Uber
太可爱了
hypeconr (7个月之前)
This is so great, I saw this when I was a kid, my grandfather had iton Betamax tape. I don't know if it still exists or works for thatmatter. I would really like to have this on DVD, the artstyle andmusic, just brilliant!!!
这是如此伟大，当我是个孩子的时候，我看过它，我的爷爷把它录在 Betamax带上，我不知道它是否仍然存在或能播放。我真希望能有这个电影的DVD。这个艺术风格和音乐，就是华丽！！！
UTubeAngelique (8个月之前)
Easy now! I haven't seen this since I was about 7 or 8 yrs old. BBC2had a season of Asian animation, been trying to get old of this foryears!!!! It kept me quiet for 45 minutes! Ace.
我自从七八岁以后就没有看过这个电影，BBC2曾经有一季亚洲动画。试图获得这个电影有许多年了，它让我保持安静了45分钟
good4we (6个月之前)
Amazing!!!!!!! Wish they'd release more Chinese animation like this on TV or DVD. Love Journey to the West.
使人惊叹！我希望他们能在电视上或DVD上放更多象这样的中国动画。爱西游记
hkparody (6个月之前)
Thanks for uploading ! I also saw it when i was kid !! this is such a great souvenir !
谢谢上传，我在还是个孩子的时候，看过它，这是如此伟大的纪念品
HakuryuVision
Whoa! I really love this!
I wish i could understand chinese, this is so interresting!
哇，我太喜爱这个了
我希望我能理解中文，这是如此有趣
AmodifiedBear (3个月之前)
AAAA ON EMU WHOOY OTKUSIL!!
（看不懂啥意思，也许表示惊喜的感叹吧）
ravernomus (1 周前)
i've seen it for the 1st time when i was like 8-10 years old and ifound it so awesome!! Dispite that it is chinees spoken, i want tothank you for uploading this video.
我大约在八九岁的时候，第一次看到它，我发现它如此棒了（如此令人敬畏）尽管是说中文，我还是要谢谢你上传这个视频
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_whh18ZSrjY&feature=related
第二部分下的评论
goosejuice288 (1 年前)
I love you for uploading this. Been looking for it a long time. Iwish I could understand it though haha. But I know the story so it'sall good.
我爱你因为你上传了这个电影，寻找它很长时间了，我希望我能理解它，尽管哈哈……。但我知道这个故事，所以它是好的
satoriG (1 年前)
i have been looking for this for 21 years
我已经寻找这个电影21年了
fantasybird
OMG,then u must be a father of a son already
我的上帝，那你一定已经是个孩子的父亲了
trolltrumman (10个月之前)
I've been looking too! And I have TWO sons!! 
我也一直在寻找，我已经有两个儿子了
mortensn (3周之前)
been looking for this since I was 5 years old
从我五岁的时候起，一直在寻找这个电影
mercerle (9个月之前)
Anyone know where this can be found with english subtitles?
有谁知道，在哪里能找到这个电影的英文字幕
trooper
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Bristol, UK
Posts: 123
must look up the meaning of the word irony some day
(sorry Quest!)
By the way, great thread. I’ve been thinking about how to get this film too, but not in Swedish of course.
有人回帖表示共鸣，说他自己也一直想要寻找到这个电影，当然不是瑞典语的
Enilsson
Guest
Posts: n/a
"Kung Markatta"
I wonder, either this movie is exceptionally good or everything elsein TV back then was simply so crap that it just had to stand out. Itwas back in the days of the Swedish TV monopoly with only two channelson and cartoons was an exceptional rarity.
Frankly I think it was just so exceptionally good.
I’ve watched this movie as well and according to David’s chronology Iwas at most 5 and a half years old. However I remember some of it. Inaddition to what already have been said, I should say that I reallyliked the music in this movie. Very, traditionally Chinese in myuneducated ears, and very neat, good at setting the mood. Also likedthe animations, nice colors, and the story was cool. This monkey tookcrap from noone and he fought the Gods even. That he himself was somesort of divine being I don’t think I got when I watched it. He also hadthis fighting staff which he shrank and hid inside his ear when notusing. All in all a great movie.
这个人好像是对这么好的电影在瑞典的电视台里出现次数这么少表示奇怪
他还说这部电影除了其他人说的许多优点外，音乐也特别好,非常中国传统的，非常干净的，非常能煽动情绪的。还说色彩还有故事也都很酷
还对情节做了一些评价
chiba2000
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Monkey King
Ijust watched my Swedish video of Monkey King, it’s been 24 years sinceI saw it the last time. And it’s clear to me that things has changedsince then. Animations is pretty ok, nothing more. The quality of therecording is bad, but the worst thing is the horrible dubbing. There’sonly one voice, more like a narrator, after the dialogue between thecharacters is finished the narrator explains (short version so tospeak)in Swedish what was said, not very entertaining. Still I like thestory very much. I would love to see a remastered subtitled or properlyEnglish dubbed version on DVD someday.
/Chiba2000
这个人是说他上一次看已经24年了，动画是好的不能再好了，但配音很糟糕，他希望某一天能够在DVD上看到重新制作的字幕版本或者有正确英语配音的版本
Quest
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,998
I think the Chinese version had different voices
这个人回复上面一个人说，他认为中文版本有不同的声音
blougou
Guest
Posts: n/a
Me too
A french guy experienced exactly the same :
i saw Monkey King about 20 years ago and, still, I’m searching for videotapes or dvds. Great, great memories.
To sum up, at present, none of us has found a proper version? Namely, with english (or french ) subtitles ?????
这个回帖的人好像是个法国人，
他说他也有同样的经历，他在20年以前看到了猴王（就是大闹天宫），直到今天，他还在寻找录像带或DVD
他总结说，到目前，我们当中还没有一个人已经找到一个正确的版本?也就是有英语或法语字幕的版本？
shaneeca
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2
Thank heavens, I am NOT ALONE.
More people here that loves a movie which is so wonderful, but totally impossible to get!!
Unbelievable.
If ANYONE knows WHERE I can get this movie, I prefer ORIGINAL language (Mandarin) with English Subtitles.
Seen it twice on TV, somewhere around 1980.
One time on Dutch TV, and one time on the BBC.
I didn’t have a VCR back then, and that’s a damn pity.
Haven’t seen an animation movie that was better....
And I’ve seen quite a few in my lifetime.
Please YELL if you know something.
I’ve written the Chinese Embassy in the Netherlands to get a fax or e-mail address from the Shanghai Animation Film Studio.
It’s quite strange that they this movie isn’t on DVD yet.
sherill@lycos.nl
I’m from Amsterdam/The Netherlands
这个人好像是说
感谢上天，我不是一个人
这里有这么多热爱一部如此华美壮丽电影的人，但却都不可能得到它
难以置信！！
如果有任何人知道哪里能得到这部电影，他更倾向于是原版普通话，带英文字幕
他曾经在电视上看过两次，在1980年左右，一次是在在荷兰电视台，一次是在BBC
他那时候没有录像，是该死的遗憾
他没有看过一部动画片是能够比这个更好的了，而他是看过许多动画片的
他曾经给荷兰的中国大使馆写过信以得到上海美术电影制片厂的传真或电子邮件地址
相当奇怪的是他们这部电影还没有DVD
他是来自荷兰阿姆斯特丹
Davidh
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7
Wonderful!We’re beginning to be quite a bunch of Europeans searching for thismovie If you do get contact, please post it here
Swedish Television has this info on the film:
Titel: KUNG MARKATTA UPROAR IN HEAVEN (CHINA TV EXP AND IMP) [orig]
Sänt: 1978-12-23 21.04-22.50 TV2
Speltid:106.00
Repris:
1980-01-02 KL:17.40-18.25
1980-01-03 KL:17.45-18.22
1980-01-04 KL:17.59-18.30
Innehåll: EN KINESISK SAGA FÖR STORA OCH SMÅ. TECKNAD LÅNGFILM OM APKUNGEN SUN WU-KUNG
Anmärkning
Swedish title, English title, broadcast dates.. ..not that it helpsour cause.. "China TV EXP AND IMP", didn’t find that company troughgoogle.
cheers!
David
这是那个帖子的楼主发言了
太好了，我们是相当多的一群搜寻这个电影的欧洲人，如果有谁有，就联系
（下面就大概是他提供的联系方式）
laolee
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Springfield, USA
Posts: 135
UPROAR IN HEAVEN - 2 DVDS, if anyone is still looking for it.
40th Anniversary Edition came out in July (Chinese subs only):
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.asp...ideos/did-106/
17th August 2004, 06:45 AM #24
有一个叫老李的人提供了40周年纪念版，是中文字幕的
Davidh
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7
thanks, laolee, I’m still looking for it.
Too bad it’s just chinese subs, it would have been so easy for them toinclude english subtitles. But thanks anyway, I’ll e-mail them aquestion when/if they expect an international release.
nice DVD cover by the way.
表示感谢，但太糟糕了只有中文字幕，本来对他们来说加上英文字幕是很容易的。但如论如何表示感谢
11th November 2004, 08:43 AM #25
laolee
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Springfield, USA
Posts: 135
I just watched this this week and really enjoyed, even without Englishsubs. One thing, though, according to the bcdb.com entry, the originalrunning time was 120 minutes, this version is about 85 minutes. Did notnotice except the ending was possibly trimmed. Otherwise, fantastic!
Another plus that I didn’t realize is that the disc also includes the1941 b/w film Princess Iron Fan about 75 minutes long. What a greatunexpected bonus.
还是那个老李
他说
我这个礼拜刚刚看过，真的很享受，即便没有英文字幕，但有一件事情，原版的应该有120分钟，而这个版本却只有85分钟左右
其他都很好
另外补充一点，他没有意识到这个碟片还包括了一个1941年制作的75分钟的铁扇公主，多么出人意料的巨大奖励啊
Outofin
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: US
Posts: 760
An old thread comes up again.
The monkey’s story is not merely an animated film a Swedish boy camecross in his childhood. He’s very hot and even presents some key valuesof our culture. I’m making a new thread because I wrote it a little bitlong.
这个人说
再次出现的一个老主题
猴子的故事不仅仅是一个瑞典男孩在他的童年时代遇到的一个动画电影，他是非常热并且提供了一些我们文化的关键价值，我正在开一个新的帖子，因为我写的有点长
karenzita
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1
Even in Venezuela somebody saw that movie
But I think I was the only one who had it! My father recorded it onBETAMAX (yes.. BETAMAX!) and I looooved that film. I saw it with theoriginal sound and a narrator in spanish, but now im looking for iteither in english or spanish, preferebly subtitled.
I knownobody has posted anything in here for a few months, but if you haveany information that might help me, that would be great!
Ithink I’m the only person in Venezuela and maybe latinoamerica that hasseen that movie, or at least still remembers about it.
Thanks a lot for whatever help you may give me..
Chao
但我认为我是唯一个拥有它的人，我的父亲把它记录在BETAMAX上（是的，BETAMAX），并且我爱这部电影，我看的时候是原版的声音和西班牙语的讲述介绍。但我现在正在寻找英语或西班牙语的，最好是字幕的
我知道已经有好几个月没有人在这里贴任何东西了，但如果你有任何信息可以帮我，那就太好了
我想我是唯一一个在委内瑞拉也许是拉丁美洲看过这个电影的人或至少还记得它的
11th March 2006, 08:36 AM #34
shaneeca
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2
got it at long last
at yesasia. BUT unfortunately without English subtitles.
But great altogether to see this superb movie again...
终于得到它了
但不幸的是没有英文字幕，但能同心协力来再次看到这部超级电影就已经伟大了
8th April 2007, 04:49 AM #37
Lucifer99
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
you can now find a fan-subbed version with English subtitles here,
http://www.kurotokagi.com
Safe place to order from. I have bought several Japanese movies from that place.
//Lucifer99
你现在能找到一个带英文字幕的粉丝字幕版本
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
I’d say it’s a safe bet that the fan-subbed DVD mentioned above usesthe subtitles provided on my wiki (translated by a chinese guy, editedby me). I actually don’t mind, but the price is outrageous. You canstill get a DVD with English subtitles on http://asiandvdclub.org, sodon’t bother paying for it.
我想说上面提到字幕版本使用我提供的英文字幕（由一个中国家伙翻译，我编辑）我不介意，但价格太疯狂了，
9th April 2007, 04:21 PM #41
Lucifer99
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
New translation was all they said. As for my own...I wish! Source, noclue. Anyway, I’m dying to get this one, it’s been on my mind for over20 years now.
新的翻译都是他们说的，至于我自己，仅仅是我希望！不管怎么样，我为了得到这个，快死了，它在我心头已经超过20年了
monkeyKingsPals
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
I realize it’s been quite a while since the original post, but I just joined this forum, so I couldn’t post sooner.
This is indeed a beautiful animation. I hope English subtitling doessomething to increase the awareness of this wonderful video.
I have good news for anyone interested in this topic:
The DVD you’re seeking has been reworked with English subtitles and is to be released very soon, if it hasn’t already been.
My friend who arranged to have the subtitling done told me on Friday that the English-subtitled DVD has been completed.
I was fortunate to have had the opportunity of working with thecharming lady (Windy Shum) who did the translation of this film’sscript into English, making suggestions on grammar and usage.
I’m very anxious to get my hands on a copy as you are, so I will letyou know what I learn about availability as soon as I know anything.
From San Francisco with love...
我意识到离上一次回帖已经有很长时间了，但我刚加入这个论坛不能更快了
这确实是一部美丽的动画，我希望英文字幕确实能对增加这部壮丽影片的理解程度有帮助
我有一个好消息要告诉对任何对这个主题感兴趣的人
你们正在寻找的DVD已经被重新制作了英文字幕，很快就要发行了，如果不是已经发行
我的一个安排制作完成字幕的朋友告诉我在星期五英文字幕的DVD已经完成了
foolip
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Beijing
Posts: 63
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
English subtitles for this movie has been around for a long time, asyou will know if you read this thread. What I would like to know iswhat the source of the video is on any newer releases. The DVD releasesfrom China are missing a few minutes here and there, which is a realshame.
这个片子的英文字幕已经出来有一段时间了，我想知道的是这个片源有没有任何新的发行，从中国发行的DVD到处少了许多分钟，这是一个真正的羞耻
4th October 2007, 04:54 AM #46
danishhappyness
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1
Re: Uproar in Heaven, Monkey King, animated film (please help)
WOW - Thank you for all the help - Just two days ago I asked if The monkey King existed on dvd.
But no... Untill I found this site:-D
A childhood memory from Danish Television (I still know the chinesetheme song - damn..) is now mine to watch - Thank you Thank you Thankyou all.
谢谢你们所有人，仅仅两天前我还在问是否这猴王有DVD，但没有，直到我找到这个站点
从Danish Television来的儿童时代的记忆，现在又可以重温了，谢谢你们，谢谢你们，谢谢你们所有人 |
发表于 2009-2-23 17:15
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